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by Code187 on July 23, 2013
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Two questions actually,
First as a Georgia resident, it is legal to keep native venomous species of snakes- but I find conflicting reports of western cotton mouth snakes being native to georgia, most reports will say a sub species- but would and dose this cover the western it's self?
Second- is it legal to buy a georgia native hot from another state and transfer it back to ga? For example- I go to the show in South Carolina , buy a Agkistrodon piscivorus piscivorus and return home, is that a violation of the Lacy Act or not?
Thankyou in advance,
Steve Morse
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by agkistrodude on July 24, 2013
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Steve, I'm not an attorney, and I am not giving you legal advise here. I can only speak from personal experience and what GA DNR reps have told me in the past. They won't differentiate between subspecies of Agkistrodon. Contortrix or piscivorus. If the species is native to GA, you can have it in GA. Doesn't matter where you got it from. "The Lacey Act originally prohibited the transportation of illegally captured or prohibited animals across state lines, and addressed potential problems caused by the introduction of non-native species of birds and animals into native ecosystems.Today it is primarily used to prevent the importation or spread of potentially dangerous non-native species." Just don't get caught crossing state lines with a Burmese python, an anaconda, or a venomous snake that's not indigenous to GA and you should be fine. Take care, Marty
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by Code187 on July 24, 2013
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Marty,
Thankyou for your response, I realize this is not a legal forum, and I would never point someone out should I get into a tight spot, but I would like to at least know what I'm getting into before a situation rises. So your response was great and if I understand you right a more western type of Agkistrodon contortix might even be acceptable? If so that would make my day. Their are some beautiful specimens in that range. I also have contacted ga DNR, but I admit I was pretty vague in my questioning. Their are plenty of hot snakes that are legal in this state, and I don't plan on losing my collection by stepping out of bounds. At the same time, I feel uncomfortable speaking openly about my hobby with those who do not share the same interest. I didn't think the Lacy Act applied from what I could read, but I to am not a lawyer and some of their leagle vagueness is beyond me. Better safe than sorry.
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by Code187 on July 26, 2013
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Just an update- I ended up contacting John Jensen from Ga DNR and asked him about my above questions, for any Georgia hots keepers interested I thought I would share:
Georgia native hots are legal to keep, without permit as long as not being displayed to public.
All sub-species of native hots are legal to keep.
Exp:: Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix is the native, the sub Agkistrodon contortrix laticinctus would still be legal for us to keep even though the sub laticinctus is not a native.
Exp2::Sistrurus miliarius miliarius Will cover the subs barbouri and streckeri. But will Not cover Sistrurus catenatus ext.
Now for the bad news:
John told me that all reptiles are not to be transported across state lines without permit. He did say this is normally only enforced when the violator is in violation of other laws.. But that's the law on the books, and if they wanted to you could be in trouble.
So that's what I found out
Steve Morse
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by agkistrodude on July 26, 2013
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I haven't bought an exhibition permit for displaying for a few years, but the last time I did it was only $65.00. And that would allow you to legally cross into GA with one from another state. They would also add native non venomous to the permit at no additional charge. But, they said if I added non venomous, it would mean occasional inspections. I guess to make sure you didn't have species that were not listed on your permit. Any time you added a new non venomous snake you were supposed to update it. For me it sounded like more hassle than it was worth, so I never did it. Not sure if the price has gone up or not. take care, Marty
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by Code187 on July 27, 2013
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Well that's interesting, I'll check that out. Small price for peace of mind. No need for the non-venomous, I don't mind having people over, as long as their invited ;)
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