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rattlesnake venom in eye.
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by pahothand on September 7, 2014
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Had a a new atrox in a quarantine cage with a locked screen lid strike strait up at the screen and squirt a dose of venom in my eye and mouth on Thursday night. I rinsed it with normal saline and washed out my mouth. Didn't think it was going to be a big deal until my eye got really blood shot and swollen. So I went to the ER all they did was put a device into my eye to rinse it with a whole liter on normal saline. and sent me home. At that point I felt fine other than my eye burned.
The next morning I woke up nauseated and had a pretty good headache. I went to a follow-up appointment with my eye doctor he said the venom had prob. just irritated the eye and sent me home with drops and said follow up with my primary care physician for the headache and nausea and come back sat morning for a re check with the eye doctor.
So I go home call my doctor and the secretary says I will talk to him and get back to you. So I go home and go to bed. Wake up 5 hours later the doctor had called and wanted to see me but his office is now closed. So I go back to bed still having the pain and nausea. I have quite a restless night and the nausea get s worse overnight.
Saturday I wake up feeling much better less of a headache and less nausea. I go to the follow-up with the eye doctor and as I am sitting in the chair after the exam I pass out and go into convulsions. So they transport me to the ER. I have a different doctor than the night visit 2 days prior. He seems to know a little more about snake venom. after a few hours of observation some labs and such he come to the conclusion that I was envenomated enough to make me sick but not enough that anivenom is needed he says I may feel this way for a few weeks and sends me home.
Today I have no pain my guts feel a little off but no nausea. Has anyone ever heard of anyone having a reaction to rattlesnake venom in their eye before?
Saturday morning
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by choppergreg74 on September 7, 2014
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Question. You said you got venom in your mouth. Is it possible you had an open wound in your mouth or cut your gums that mourning brushing your teeth. That could also be a possible way to get envenomated. Also I've heard salmonella can be caused buy ingesting venom???? Thank God your ok
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by choppergreg74 on September 8, 2014
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I'm glad to see you are OK. And thank God did not need antivenom. It makes us all realize good old Murphys Law. Any thing that can go wrong will go wrong. Lol. Stay safe.
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by ssnakes1 on February 4, 2015
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From the very beginning of my training in handling of venomous snakes, it was stressed to me I needed to wear safety glasses to work around these animals because venom in the eyes IS AN ENVENOMATION. I can't believe all these hospital & doctor folks treating you did not find that in the literature!
Venom is NOT dangerous in your mouth (you can actually swallow it) unless you have an open sore or cut. I always wear safety glasses when handling or moving any venomous creatures!
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by LarryDFishel on February 11, 2015
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Note: I am not a doctor and I'm an amateur herpetologist at best. I'm not giving medical advice, just mt opinions and experience.
(Sorry, I didn't sit down intending to write a novel on the subject.)
I've been squirted in the face several times by snakes striking at screens. That's one reason why I prefer plastic containers with air holes for smaller snakes. I've gotten small amounts of venom in my mouth a few times, spit it out immediately and rinsed as quickly as possible. Never had a noticeable reaction other than the taste.
Once or twice over the years, I've gotten some venom in my eyes, but not a lot. I assumed (but didn't know) that at least some venom could be absorbed through the cornea or the conjunctiva (blood vessels near the surface of both), so I make it highest priority to rinse the eyes as quickly and thoroughly as possible. If there is a hose handy, I spray water in my eyes (trying to keep the water speed reasonable) while trying to keep my eyes open as much as I can. Saline would be less irritating to the eyes, but I don't usually have liters of saline on tap, so I go with tap water and then a quick rinse with saline once I feel the danger has past. I can't think of a time that my eyes were much more irritated than they would be, just from spraying with tap water.
The technique I describe seems fairly obvious to me, but maybe I've had it reenforced through a few episodes like pulling a fuel line off a carburetor and splashing gas in my face. (Running across the yard, to the hose with one eye open might have been more dangerous than the gas.) I think that actually irritated my eyes more than any venom incident I remember.
I like the idea of wearing safety glasses, but as I wear pretty bulky prescription glasses, I find safety glasses uncomfortable and inconvenient. I also get some protection from my glasses. I can think of at least one incident where I could see venom on my lenses but didn't get any in my eye. If I were going to wear safety glasses, I'd want to be very sure they didn't interfere with my vision, and would probably take my chances without them if they did.
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