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Sterotyped Herp keepers.
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by new2hots on August 5, 2004
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Being a snake keeper, I have came to the conclusion that all of us have been sterotyped as people who have tattoos, piercings, and lead the typical "BIKER" life style. Myself, I do have the tatto's and piercing's but do not have the biker life style. They consist of a largemouth bass, a rattlesnake, a chinese symbol for brother's and a budda. Too many piercings to list! I haver a feeling that there are many of us who do not have any tattoos or piercings and lead a "normal" lifestyle. I am writing this to see if there is a general lifestyle of the herp community. If you do have any tatto's or piercings please list what they are or the number of them. Does anyone think that they give us a bad image?
Thanks Garry
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by Scootertrash on August 5, 2004
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Hi Garry
You know, I was thinking the very same thing you are. I do live the biker lifestyle and i have tattoos, but no piercings. I wonder also if herp keepers are stereotyped into this class by outsiders. I think we are by many. I was riding the scooters and had tattoos way before I got into hot herps though. Just goes to show you what outsiders know, doesn't it? It doesn't really matter either, does it? We all make stereotypes whether we mean too or not. Just a thought.
Clayton
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by LarryDFishel on August 5, 2004
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I think it's fairly understandable actually. It seems like people who really crave attention are prone to 1) Tatoos, 2) Peircings 3) Outlanding clothes 4) Exotic pets. I'm not saying that bacause someone is into any one or more of these things that that means they do it for attention, just that those people that do tend to be into all of the above plus go out of thier way to be noticed, so those are the ones people remember. For the more "average" keepers, probably few will ever know that they have reptiles, so they have no effect on the public's perception. FWIW, I have never had one piercing or tatoo but I do ride when the weather's good (only rice power so far). My interests change too often to do something as permanent as a tatoo, though I could see myself getting one someday, maybe even an earring, but probably nothing beyond that.
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Anonymous post on August 5, 2004
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I am a very experienced keeper..not "average"..I do not keep herps for attention either, and I do not have any tattoos! I had one of my ears pierced when I was in high school..I am 30 now. I do not advertise my herp collection..Only a select few people know exactly what I keep....I think there is a stereotype somewhat..when it comes to herp keepers. But know that It is not a hard and fast rule...no stereotype is...!!!
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by Scootertrash on August 5, 2004
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I will clarify that I do not keep my herps for exhibition or attention, nor have I gotten my tattoos for attention. I just happen to love and respect these magnificent creatures so I will say it again. People stereotype things that they do not understand. It's just a fact of life, isn't it?
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by Phobos on August 6, 2004
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Hi All:
I'm just plain and average. No tatoo's or piercings, nor do I ride. I've had more friends killed or badly injured while biking than friends killed by snakes, so I feel it's much more dangerious to do. I used to ride enduro & motocross but don't anymore either. I do enjoy peoples art work and "hardware" they've installed. Just not for me but I think it's cool, plus it's their body and can decorate it as they wish. In high school & college I had ponytail length hair. That ended when I entered the USAF after college.
I mostly worry about someones skill level and how well they will take care of the animal rather how someone looks. Never judge a book by it's cover still counts with me.
Best,
Al
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by BGF on August 6, 2004
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Interesting thread. By sheer wonderful coincidence my wife (Alexia) is actually studying what makes the herp community tick. One of the things that has emerged from her data is that herpers are typically just 'people'. Anyone from a six year old boy with skinned knees and a kingsnake all the way up to sweet grandmothers dotting over their red-eyed tree frogs and everything inbetween. She'll be publishing this data in a Sociology journa. It will be very useful for people fighting assinine ordinances. They can use it to point out to moronic council members that herpers are just generic voters.
Here's the link to her research page. Watch this page later in the year for more updates
http://www.venomdoc.com/lexy/survey_intro.html
Cheers
B
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by thenewdisciple on August 6, 2004
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im 20 years old, i drink with my friends, chase girls, go to school and catch snakes. i think all of that would be classified as normal , except the snakes.
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by JTEDENS on August 6, 2004
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I have tattoos, piercings, and long hair so I am not main stream America. However, I am proud of what I do and try to encourage everyone to get into keeping snakes or at least stop killing them. I have to disagreee with Clayton's first post. It does matter how the outside world views herp keepers and especially hot keepers. The outside world may include your city council that decides to ban hot herps because they think "only 'white trash' would be interested in that sort of thing". I live in Texas where there are no laws regarding the keeping of any venomous species, which I don't totally agree with. I feel there should be some type of permit for exotic venomous. I also have to agree with Larry that a lot of appearance issues including keeping potentially dangerous animals are because of a need for attention. However I feel that would be associated more with younger keepers. Most people that are doing this past the age of 25-30 or have been doing it for 10+ years are probably in it for the animals not the attention. People are stereotyped but that's an everyday issue. The best thing we can do is to be as professional as possible when dealing with reptiles and let it be known that you are a responsible keeper. You don't have to let anyone in particular know about your herps but if you choose to stress safety and responsibility while discussing the issue.
Regards, John
www.radioactivereptiles.com
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by thenewdisciple on August 6, 2004
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i agree, im young so im new to the hot snakes, but i think anyone , and i mean anyone who keeps venomous snakes for attention will very likely be hurt or get someone else hurt while doing so.
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