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False water cobra-first hot?
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by Boaguy216 on November 29, 2004
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Hi, I'm new to hots but i have expereince with snakes. Right now I own a brazilian rainbow boa and a ball python. I know constictors are nothing like a venomous snake's behavior or potential danger but they're what I've got and I love them. I have also gone out onto the hill I live near and found and handled wild kingsnakes and garters too. I go to a vet to make sure my snakes are in good health and they are. I've been curious about some venomous snakes latley. So I was wondering if a false water cobra would be a good one to go with. It would be great to get some info on these guys and their general behavior and needs so I can make a decsicion.
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by thenewdisciple on November 29, 2004
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check your state laws first of all and make sure you can own hots coastalreptiles.com has state by state laws, i dont know if false water cobras are considered medically significant i somehow doubt they are. it has been said that they have a powerful venom but due to the low amount injected and the fact that they have rear fangs they are not considered to be too dangerous. i would say the best hot for a beginner is a southern copperhead though. they are not considered deadly and they have a relatively calm nature. prior to getting you first hot read up on them and make sure you have proper escape proof caging and snake handling tools (hooks, tongs, etc). hope ive been some help to you and good luck.
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by thenewdisciple on November 29, 2004
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also you should fill out your profile and at least include your age. people will feel more comfortable helping you out if they know a little more about you.
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by spankey on November 29, 2004
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One thing about coastal reptiles. I looked up Washington laws and coastal said they were legal in Washington, but I emailed my county and they said I have to have a license, and I can only have 4 venomous at maximum, and a bunch of other rules. So you should check with your county to be sure that it’s legal.
Jason
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by timberrattlesnake89 on November 29, 2004
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I was thinking about a false water cobra for a while. There venom is comparable to a timber rattlesnake. Also they get up to 8ft long so you would neeed a big cage. There has been deaths from FWC. I would definately suggest a copperhead over a FWC. YOu definatly need to look into your law of what state your in. There is a lot where it is illegal to keep one just like my state. They are also fast and aggresive. I would say a copperhead is the best if you are getting into venomous. One thing about copperheads is that they are not fast and not the most aggressive.
Phillip
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by bush_viper17 on November 29, 2004
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I would actually suggest getting a pigmy rattlesnake over a copperhead. I know this isnt what you were asking but I have copperheads and a pigmy and I would definetly suggest a pigmy over a FWC or a copperhead.
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by timberrattlesnake89 on November 29, 2004
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Jeremy,
Unfortanly most pigmies are extremely hard to get feeding. Also you would have to catch lizard for it to eat. Copperheads will mostly take food right off the bat.
Phillip
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by pygmybait on November 29, 2004
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Pigs are not really that hard to get to feed. Neonates can be a little harder than established juviniles and adults but for the most part, they will eat just as readily as any other snake. Just my experience.
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by emtnurse on November 29, 2004
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I think a copperhead would be a good beginner snake for someone getting into hots. They are pretty snakes, temper is not too much, and usually eat pretty well.. In the past, I have had a hard time getting neonates to eat, but that goes without saying. Coppers were my first hots when I got into venomous snakes 3 years ago. But definatley, be sure to check your local and state laws like everyone has said.
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by Nightflight99 on November 30, 2004
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Let's get a grip here. While Hydrodynastes gigas are very large, rear-fanged Colubrids with the potential to produce a medically significant envenomation, it is not known top have produced any human fatalities. Toxicity without yield means very little, otherwise fatality rates in scorpions, for example, would be significantly higher in adults. This species should certainly be treated with caution, but placing it within the same category as proteroglyphs and solenoglyphs is definitely not appropriate.
From a captive management perspective, comparing H.gigas with A.contortrix or Sistrurus sps. is comparing apples to oranges. The former is a large, diurnal forager, whereas the latter are small (to medium-sized) nocturnal ambush predators. All of these species are suitable for entry-level keepers, but a bite from the latter taxa is much more likely to produce significant symptomatic.
~TE
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