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Intense Herps / Justyn Miller
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by erk on May 11, 2007
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Justyn Miller / Intense Herps not shipping animals or refunding money
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Hello Everyone -
I have thought long and hard about posting this on here because I was hoping that he would eventually come through, but it does not seem this will be the case and I'm very dissapointed in this situation.
There were alot of emails back and forth between Justyn and I so I will give a brief outline and if emails are necessary I have them backed up.
This is all in regards to an ad Justyn placed for a Congo shipment which included Black and Red Atheris squamigera which is what I was intrested in........
3/22 - I sent $1,000 to Justyn via Paypal for a deposit on a total of 6 Black and 8 Red Atheris squamigera 50% of the total has he required.
4/19 - Snakes allegedly arrived at his facility.
4/21 - Advised he would be ready to ship on 4/24.
4/24 - Advised he could not ship that day and would ship on 4/26.
4/24 - Informed of alleged bite by Echis coloratus (I will elaborate more on this at the end)
4/25 - Advised he will take pictures after I requested numerous times and would look up cargo bookings to ship snakes.
4/26 - Could not take pics because he did not have enough time. (Snakes have been in now for 6 days) advised he would take pics 4/27.
5/1 - Said he would email pics same day, never did.
5/1 - Said he was packing venomous snakes that night and should be able to get to mine that night since it was not a large order.
5/2 - Advised shipment did not go out.
5/2 - Can't pack snakes because of bad T-Storms in the area.
5/2 - Sent blury pics from a cell phone of some squams but not black or reds.
5/3 - Informed me order again did not go out.
5/6 - I requested animals go out within 2 days or he refund my deposit. (Snakes have now been in 16 days)
5/8 - Advised he would send refund.
5/8 - Advised he could not send refund via Paypal because of no funds and would have to send a Money Order and would take care of the refund next day.
5/9 - Confirmed he would take care of refund same day.
5/10 - Informed me that he can not send refund due to financial situation and because he had another shipment from Peru come in and until everyone finished paying on that one he will be low in cash. (In the beginning he advised deposits were kept completely seperate from other money).
Expects to ship large venomous order on 5/14 but still can not ship squams.
5/11 - Said he considered deposits his when the animals arrived but never provided any proof of animals arriving such as pictures or shipping the animals.
(Snakes have now been in 21 days)
Now here I am 21 days after the snakes allegedly arrived and 51 days after I sent in a deposit with no snakes and no refund.
Many people have always doubted he would bring these animals in.
I, myself import animals and know very well the difficulties in getting things done but I don't think there is anyone that can come forward and say I kept them waiting or did not come through with their animals.
I also have heard first and second hand that I am not the only one dealing with this situation.
Regarding the Echis bite. Anyone that knows anything about the potential severity of an Echis bite knows you do NOT take chances. If you even think you have been envenomated you go to the hospital immediately. He said he had symptoms and swelling and tenderness in the arm yet did not go to the hospital.
Last year I was bitten by a neonate Echis carinatus which can curl up on a quarter. I got one fang in my thumb while force feeding it. I knew because of the local pain I had been envenomated and left right away for the hospital while arranging the Anti-Venom along the way (a 10 minute ride)
I was in ICU for 48 hours and recieved 2 vials of Anti-Venom, my blood was taking a very long time to clot, as if I was on a very high dose of blood thinner but otherwise I had no swelling or pain anywhere.
I know many people who work very closely with snake envenomations and they agree that it is very unlikely that this was really a bite.
So I'd like to hear what everyone has to say. I know Justyn has not had any negative comments previously but perhaps this time he bit off more than he could chew and is trying to keep from looking bad.
Best Regards,
Eric Marquette
Northshore Reptiles, LLC
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by CFoley on May 15, 2007
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Eric,
I contacted him about that same shipment. He claimed he was getting in Naja samarensis. That seemed like a ridiculous statement.
I called a few people who would know about this (Peter Nguyen, and the Dallas Zoo). The Dallas Zoo has been the only person tmk to import these snakes. I spoke to them, and they highly doubted that Justyn would really be able to get these snakes.
ALSO, if so...he would not have to be advertising them! I can think of atleast 6 people who would buy all of them at the listed price ($900) NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!
When I called Peter, he was actually at a show in TX...he was also informed the same information from various other vendors.
Pretty much the only way I could find it feasible to import N. samarensis would be to request a freedom of information act from Fish and Game and find out what avenue Dallas zoo imported them.
I know these cobras are irrelavent to the Atheris in question, but it was the same shipment and the same advertising.
I contacted Justyn after they should all be in the US, and he claimed that he "sold them all to a guy in Europe" and that is why they would not be imported here.
Good luck getting a refund or anything else out of him!
I actually checked a handful of references on him, and they passed...I'm almost surprised he went though with this.
Chris
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by gatorman on May 17, 2007
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Eric, He did the same crap to me. kept lying and beating around the bush whenever I would call or e-mail. He no longer responds to e-mails and does not answer his cell phone and the mail box is full so you can't even leave a message for the creep. I don't see how he can get away with this stunt. And I'm not about to give up I'm going to do everything I can to get my money back even if it costs me more then he owes just to keep people like him unable to do stuff like this to honest people like ourselves.
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by Peter84Jenkins on May 19, 2007
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Thanks for the heads up I was going to purchase a few animals from this place but the guy never even replied to my email. Thanks again.
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by erk on May 20, 2007
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I got the below email from Justyn on Friday morning at 8:03AM. I have since emailed him 3 times asking if the money order has been sent out with no reply at all nor have I recieved a money order.
It's now Sunday at 4:25 PM, I see Justyn took the time to come on here and argue over some stupid FedEx problem but couldn't find the time to email me 2 or 3 sentences explaining if the money had been sent or not and if not, why.
Justyn, you promised refunds mid week, now we're starting a new week and I haven't heard a word from you. It's time you step up and pay your debts. I don't care about your pond business, and I don't care about your work with the Senate (you are not the only one working on that issue). There are SEVERAL people you owe $1,000 or more to. FIX IT.
This is the email I recieved from Justyn on Friday morning.
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Eric, we were stuck at the Senate all day until VERY late, I will shoot you
a money order today.
Regards,
Justyn
Justyn Miller
Intense Herpetoculture
Http://www.IntenseHerp.com
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by pacificaquarium on August 16, 2008
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Hello to all,
i represente a company who export live stock from Philippines and i am also one of the victim of Justin Miller the great.
This guy is a very good entretainer and really know how to write email pretending to be the good guy. But in fact he just fuck me with 3000$.
Justin, i hope you will read this. You know because of you i loose my job, and credibility with my employer. You are a liar and a thief. How can you look at your face every morning knowing that you let me send you 3000$ of snakes that you will never pay. How can you look at your child knowing what you are, a fagot without dignity.
You think that you are too far for me to reach you? Then just wait for me.
Now for those try to make justin look like a good guy, then a good advice stay out of this, because no one is out of reach. 189 pages of complaint for this jerck, so no excuses.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=617268&posted=1#post617268
Didier Melinand
www.pacific-aquarium.net
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