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by toddg on August 21, 2009
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Well in that case you wip out your Indian flute thingie and start playing that "there's a place in France" song and put them into a trance in which case you can easily disarm them.
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by AquaHerp on August 21, 2009
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I was writing that down in my emergency response idea booklet, then I thought to myself..."can you disarm a snake"? This is really starting to get complicated!
DH
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by Rob_Carmichael on August 22, 2009
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I have never understood the idea of using these gloves for handling venomous snakes. Two bites getting through are two too many so to reply to a previous post, NO, THAT'S NOT A GOOD TRACK RECORD. That's not a dig on the company as they do sell great products, and I swear by many of them, but as Bryan said, wrong application in this instance. And to use them with an adamanteus?....man oh man that is just nuts for anyone who has worked with them. Shift boxes, proper hook techniques, proper use of tongs and tubes go a long way towards proper mangement of venomous snakes. The only gloves we have at our facility are for large monitors, that's it.
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by Cro on August 22, 2009
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The only advantage of gloves, is that they might prevent a snakes fangs from penetrating as deeply if no gloves were used.
That could keep the fangs from reaching deeper tissues, or, a vein or artery.
The fangs after going through a glove, might only reach sub-cutaneous tissues, where a venom injection might have less of an effect.
And the gloves could cause the snake to inject venom into the gloves, instead of the tissue below.
I think snake gloves can serve a purpose, but they should not be counted on to prevent a bite.
Best Regards
John Z
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by Rob_Carmichael on August 22, 2009
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Good points John, for me, though, wearing gloves when working with venomous is very cumbersome and slows down my reflexes and I lose "that feel" that is critically important when working with certain species - but as long as they are used properly, folks need to decide what works best for their purposes.
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by Kingetula on October 22, 2009
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I left Glades Herp this past weekend. I took a picture of this snake and posted it at Venom-center.com (Forums, General Venomous under GLADES HERP post)
I spent about 3 hours hanging out there before I ran home to watch the Gator game. I talked with Robbie and met the guy who got hit. I can't really say that there was any real damage done besides a little swealing. Robbie told me what happened and from what I understand and remember Robbie telling me is this guy saw the snake on the property and ran back for a hook, gloves and bucket and some where along the lines of trying to capture this EDB (being such a large snake) it was able to get 1 fang into the top of the glove. (I should of took a picture of the glove, I did see the hole however).
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by CHRIS on October 23, 2009
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THERE IS NO REASON AT ALL TO USE GLOVES FOR HANDLING VENOMOUS SNAKES . USE THE HOOK IT IS THE BEST WAY. CHRIS
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by Kingetula on October 23, 2009
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Chris or anyone,
Were any of you there when this happened? Can anyone prove he was free handling? Did anyone get a different story from Robbie or the guy who was bit? If anyone has the truth please post it because much of what I am reading here is ASSUMING HORSE CRAP! All I posted was a guy got bit, I had no clue at the time if he was catching it, free handling or what! I didn't post he was free handling did I? People jumped on here assuming he was and now some warped story seems to be going around. Has anyone talked to the guy that got bit? Has anyone talked to Robbie and got the facts? I have heard different stories and all of them seem like they could be true! I even wondered if this snake was one I saw when I was at Glades before but I never said it was. I tried to keep my post simple without assuming!
If anyone here has talked to the guy who got bit or Robbie/Robroy and has a different story, please post it. All I can go by is what Robbie told me the other day. I have visited Glades many times and each time I have noticed gloves being used as precaution, that doesn't mean I have seen them reach in to a cage without a hook! So unless someone has a different story they heard from Robbie or someone there, let's not ASSUME!
JohnZ (I believe) posted a video once of a well known Herper who was testing these gloves out on all sorts of venomous snakes. (If someone wouldn't mind posting that video again here) Watching the video of this one Herper being tagged almost had me believing it was safe to use these gloves lol. Where is the bashing of this fellow herper? The guy at Glades was just trying to catch or move a snake and wore these gloves as precaution and not trying to get bit.
Seriously, Assuming is never good. Please provide facts! If my facts are wrong about this guy at Glades, please let me know, all I can go by is what Robbie told me the other day so if I am wrong, I'd like to know and I’m sure Robbie would as well.
Seriously, if Robbie told me a BS story please let me know!
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by JSargent on October 25, 2009
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I know of another bite.....Keith Taylor got bit through a glove by a 2 1/2 ft canebrake....luckily it did keep the bite from being a bad one.....he would only use the gloves on 2 1/2 ft canes and copperheads or smaller, but after the penetration he trashed them.....i switched and started using mine for squirrels and racoons, they bite right through them also....but it does help keep the bites from being soooo bad with the coons... squirrels teeth should be considered fangs due to their length and sharpness, and the gloves offer little help against adult squirrels...they can still reach the bone......
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by Cro on October 26, 2009
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Scott
The video of the well known California herper letting cobras chew on him, while he was wearing snake gloves, does not seem to be available anymore.
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John Z
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