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Arizon Ridge Nose Rattlesnake ?
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by Nakita on December 3, 2009
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Are these animals available to private keepers or institutions only?
I have no intentions of purchasing since the only venomous I currently work with are Heloderma but I was curious considering they seem to be very rare and extremely well protected by local and federal laws.
Thanks in advance!
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by Cro on December 4, 2009
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Jackie, there are some Ridge Nosed Rattlesnakes in private collections.
Some folks collected these animals before the laws were passed, and have raised many generations of them and their offspring in captivity.
They do not produce many young, so, there is only a very small number of offspring that are sold each year, and those are sold at very high prices, and are often spoken for years in advance.
If you have the money, and live in a state where it is legal to have them, you might be able to find these snakes, but it is not a easy thing to do.
Best Regards
John Z
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by Nakita on December 4, 2009
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Thanks John!
They are gorgeous animals and if I do ever decide to try my hand at Crotalus then they will certainly be on my list even if it means waiting and paying a premium.
What about the Aruba Island Rattlesnake? Are they available as well? As you can see I evidently have a taste for the higher end animals LOL!
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by pictigaster1 on December 4, 2009
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In europe an aruba costs around 500 bucks I do not think they are in private hands in the us.A willardi will cost over 3 grand easy.Good luck finding ones for sale.A friend of mine has been trying to find legal willardi for a long time no luck.The guys that have them hold them like gold.
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by CHRIS on December 5, 2009
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I have seen Willardi for sale a couple years ago,if I am not mistaken they were around 2000 each. As far as Arubas,there are numerous animals in zoo collections. But like the Willardi they are controled by political b.s.so either one of these snakes are rarely seen in the private sector,where they would thrive very well. Good Luck Chris
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by lanceheads on December 5, 2009
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I have seen a few C. willardi for sale at our San Antonio show in the past. If I recall, they were priced around $1500.00/each.
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by Adamanteus70 on December 5, 2009
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Nakita,
If you come across a willardi at a show you had better do your homework on it to make sure it is legal. Those animals will have paperwork to go with them and if you shell out money for one the seller better have the paperwork right there in their hands.
Don't fall for that old story of how they will have to mail you the papers or that they lost the papers or any other BS a illegal seller would give.
A LOT of willardi are illegally collected for the pet trade, and if you fall for one of those you may just find yourself in massive legal trouble, and possibly in jail. Also a private collection containing some willardi was recently stolen from Alpine Texas, and those animals may be out there for sale on the down low.
If the deal sounds too good to be true, be suspicious, it is probably an illegally collected animal.
Here is a link to an article on exactly what I am talking about...poachers selling illegal animals with fake paperwork...just scrolldown to the article on Twin Spot Rattlesnakes and read it.
http://www.cfa.arizona.edu/herp/20%20(10)_103-114.pdf
Good luck...
Paul
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by Nakita on December 5, 2009
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Thanks for all the great information!
The idea of illegal animals with fake paperwork is a scary one. The animals are amazing but certainly not worth going to jail over!
Perhaps I should decide to go with the Red Pygmys if and when the time comes to add rattlesnakes to my collection again.
I've kept and bred them in the past however had little success raising the neonates which was a bit discouraging and led to me selling them. A decision I regret to this very day lol!
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by CHRIS on December 5, 2009
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The young Pygmys do very well on spring peeper frogs. House each pygmy seperatly in plastic quart jars ,with about 2 inches of gravel in it. You can get these jars at wal-mart for about $1.88 each. Drill about 6 small holes in the lid. Offer one frog a week to each. If the snake does not take it after one night pull the frog out ,and try again in about a week. Sometimes they will take pinkys right away,but the frogs will be your best bet.Be sure that you panacure at least every other month at safe levels,tell you get them on rodents. MEDICATE BY APPLYING A DOT OF PANACURE ON THE HEAD OF THE LIVE FROG,DO NOT HANDLE THE SNAKE. The frog will do all the work for you.Good Luck Chris
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