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Most venomous/toxic Naja species in the world? I have read that the Philippine cobra is the most venomous (mice, 0.2 mg/kg SC with the lowest reported value being 0.14 mg/kg SC) (Brown, 1973). I have recently, come across something in the Indian Journal of Experimental Biology (Vol. 30, (issue 12), pages: 1158-1162, 1992) which stated that the LD50 for Naja oxiana was the most toxic/venomous (mice, 0.18 mg/kg SC and lowest reported value was 0.10 mg/kg). Along with that, the mortality rate for untreated Naja oxiana bites are the highest among all Naja species (70-80%). N.oxiana also produced the lowest known lethal dose (LCLo) of 0.005 mg/kg, the lowest among all cobra species ever recorded, derived from an individual case of poisoning by intracerebroventricular injection.
Following N. oxiana and N. philippinensis are N. melanoleuca at 0.225 mg/kg SC and then N. samarensis at 0.23 mg/kg. The water cobras (N. annulata and N. christyi also have very toxic venoms, but no SC values are listed. Only intraperitoneal (IP) values of 0.143 mg/kg for N. annulata and 0.12 mg/kg for N. christyi. IP values tend to be generally lower (more toxic than subcutaneous values, so it would be unfair to compare their IP results to the subcutaneous (SC) results of other Naja species. Then I have heard that (without solid evidence) that Naja nivea is the most venomous, although their murine SC LD50 range anywhere from 0.4 mg/kg (Toxicon, Vol. 5, issue 1, page 47, 1967) to 0.72 mg/kg (Australian venoms and toxins Databse).
So which is the most venomous? To me it seems obvious that it is the Caspian or Oxus cobra (Naja oxiana), followed by the Philippine cobra (Naja philippinensis). What do you think or know?
I've noticed that the Australian venom and toxin Database seems to have higher LD50 values for all snakes across the board. For example, for the black mamba IP value of 0.01 mg/kg is listed (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/004101018890219X) and Ernst and Zug et al 1996, list a SC value of 0.05 mg/kg for the black mamba. While the Australian venom and toxin Database listed much less toxic LD50's. So there seems to be a lot of variation.
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Do you keep accurate notes on feeding & care of the specimens you keep in your collection?
  Posted: Mar 04, 2007
  (94 votes, 9 comments)
by Phobos
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Survey Results
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Yes, Complete, every detail of it's life in my collection.
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23% (22)
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Just feeding, shedding, & defecation
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40% (38)
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Some, Hit or miss when I'm in the mood or I have the time
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11% (10)
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Important events only
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15% (14)
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None, That too much work, I keep them for entertainment.
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11% (10)
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Survey Comments
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software
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this is an easy to use software that covers all of our needs
the first one is nice and simple and it is all free (this is not a trial) you can find it at this link
http://www.thegeckocam.com/hcs/download/index.php
the second one is more complicated but still very good but it is only a trial so you do have some limits on the software but i dont know what thay are as i have not downloaded it but here is the link
http://www.eyehit.com/degei/productfiles/trial.htm
hope they have been of some use
mike
Posted by
dwarescue
on March 23, 2007
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Concerning Survey Questions...
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To Viper-ess:
Jody,
Thank you for your question. You are correct; for awhile now I have only been posting web-team members' posts. There are a couple or more reasons for this and none are due to bias. I don't recieve many survey question ideas from non web-team members. The few that I do however are what I refer to as repeat questions that simply repeat a survey done previously. I find that moving back rather than forward as these question can be viewed in the past surveys is not beneficial to the user as they all can be accessed in the view all survey questions section on the survey page at the right hand column listed last. I usually activate a new survey question at the beginning of each month and keep it up for the whole said month so all may have an opportunity to add their vote and/or comments. So, say I have a batch of six new survey questions submitted one week and they are not repeat questions it will take six months to get all cycled thru the proccess.
With that being said however I am open to any and all suggestions on how I might better the survey questions section. Please feel free to e-mail any suggestions, comments, or questions to me via the website team page under survey manager.
~ Todd (a.k.a. RepFan)
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Posted by
RepFan
on March 14, 2007
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“Keep Records / Save Snakes”
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When you have over 10 Snakes in your collection, I think it to be a great idea to at least keep Feeding Records. If you don’t, you can forget to Feed someone “believe me, its possible”. I didn’t keep any sort of Record for a few Years and it finally caught up with me. Because of this, I ended up losing one of my most valuable Snakes, a beautiful Canebrake. After this, I felt like a true idiot and beat by self up over it for some time. Now I know that some of you think I would be an idiot, not being able to tell the Snake was Hungry. But I am sure some of you have had Snakes that don’t even Show their Hunger (like moving around a lot, sticking their heads out of hides and waiting for something to fall out of the sky “LOL”), so you see what not keeping Records can do?
When I worked at the Zoo, it was a totally deferent story. We kept Records of everything, including Shedding, Defecation, Feeding, Daily Movements around their Inclosures, Body Weights, Weight of Mouse/Rat that is being Eaten, and Loss of Fangs by any that we found. Hell, it was a lot more work than your average person thinks it would be.
Anyway, I think all Keepers should try to keep Records of at least Shedding, Defecation, and Feeding. In this way, you insure a accurate ability to know what’s going on with you Snakes.
Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
Posted by
ALA_snake33
on March 14, 2007
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records
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if you don't keep records if you keep reptiles you are a moron. There I said it.
Posted by
nuts_about_taipans
on March 13, 2007
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Survey Questions
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Do you ever post survey questions that are not from the web-site team???
I could only find 2 that may not have been dating back as far as May 2004.
If so, can you give credit to the originator???
Don't get me wrong there ALL pretty good questions. :) :)
Posted by
Viper-ess
on March 12, 2007
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Records
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It really depends on the animal. If it is a young animal, I will keep records of feeding and shedding, and sometimes defecation if it is something like an Emerald Tree Boa. For the most part, recording how often they crap is just something that I do not feel I need to record. Keeping 50 animals can create a lot of paperwork. I do keep detailed records of breeding, egg laying, young being born, medications, health problems, and interesting behavioral observations.
I rarely measure length or weight, unless the snake is a exceptional individual, or a new born, or an animal that there is little known about in the scientific records.
Best Regards JohnZ
Posted by
Cro
on March 9, 2007
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records
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i try to record feedings, soaking, defecation, and shedding, when i notice there eyes opae, when i last did a major cleaning, misting and when i last watered there plants. the key word was try sometimes i just forget
Posted by
darkFrOsT
on March 7, 2007
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Records
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I don't usually record defecation or sheds, but always feedings, soakings,breeding activity,and anything medical such as worming,injuries,etc.Occasional length/weights.
Marty
Posted by
agkistrodude
on March 6, 2007
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No good fit
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I (almost) always record feedings, fecal exams and any medications. I also records important events like regurgitations and occasionally lengths or weights of some snakes. I don't normally record sheds or defacations unless there is something unexpected.
Posted by
LarryDFishel
on March 5, 2007
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