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hots in ga
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Does anyone know how one might
aquire venomous permits in ga any
information is greatly appreciative
my email is
ridgerunneroriginalz@gmail.com or
my num is 706 968 8971. Feel free
to txt . Thanks Kyle
Posted by
TheFaithfulFew
on January 14, 2011
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i dont know
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i have 5 hots right now but i dont know if their illigal if anyoone knows if its illegal to keep hots in louisiana please leave a comment saying yes or no
Posted by
squints
on April 18, 2007
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V snake in Japan
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In Japan, keeping any venomous snakes is illegal.
The stupid thing is like hognosed snakes, spiders, venomous flogs, venomous rizards are legally ok to sell and keep.(sorry for my poor English)
Well, venomous flogs produce venom from thier diet in nature and their venom become weak under domestication.
But, so many venomous animal or more dangerous animals than venomous snakes are sold in Japan.
I have a rattle snakes and Japanese venomous snakes and I know how to keep them.
Sometimes I am consumed my self with the feeling that I say I have venomous snake in public. But it is dangerous and I will be arrested by police. U-m, I live in very miserable national state where there is not enough books about venomous snakes, not enough feeling to keep them.
I envy USA, the reptiles pradice for the lovers!!!!!!
Posted by
YUSU
on November 19, 2006
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legal is confusing in alot of areas
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I live in Idaho, just moved here from Florida. Idaho supposedly has no laws pertaining to the keeping of venomous snakes, with the exception of an importation permit. That is a tough one. Before I moved here I contacted F&G, they told me there was no laws on the books about venomous reptiles. When I inquired about the importation permit, they had no idea what I was talking about. I talked with 4 different people on 3 differen't occasions, and could never get it cleared up. I was finally directed to the department of agriculture. They again told me they knew of no importation permit, that was for livestock. The only requirement was a copy of a vet cert, verifying that the animal was healthy, and free of parasites and diseases. Confusing, yep.
Posted by
idviperman
on September 23, 2006
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Risk & Insurance
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Though I kept boas and other non-hots for 20 yrs, I've been interested in hots since first reading of Bill Haas' blue krait bite back in the mid-50s. That said, I think the hot fans have brought most of this problem on themselves, unavoidably, because of all the inept and irresponsible keepers that have gotten caught. Until organized hotsnakers figure out some serious liability insurance, with all the inconvenient storage requirements that will entail, things will only get worse.
I'm sure we've all met the idiots who keep hot snakes in a large (locked) glass aquarium in the garage, and when the inevitable accident happens the neighbors are understandably going to go berserk. 99% of the time the handler takes the bite, but it takes little imagination to visualize circumstances where the diamondback or cobra bites the handler and then slithers under the garage door, or thru a vent or broken window, etc. Two-layer security, like in a bio lab, should be a minimum, but it's the sloppy 'won't happen to me' guys that are dooming the hobby. Experience, to me, shouldn't be the real issue, but the security of the individual keeper's building, to include clearly-marked signs at all entries.
I had an apartment fire while I was at work, and the fire department went inside to find a 9-foot boa in the bathroom and half a dozen other non-hots in large aquariums, all overcome by smoke but later recovered. If I hadn't arrived in the middle of this, no one would have touched them, not knowing what they were, and what if they had been hot snakes, but not yet overcome? Or if a hurricane or tornado tears up the building enough to let them loose? Most hobbyists that I've met just don't think this far ahead and make completely inadequate preparations for the inevitable emergency, or just rotten luck.
For this reason I suspect most hobbyists' security procedures would be considered a joke by any real insurance company, which should give the general public great pause before allowing hot snakes outside of a zoo or lab.
I know this may not be what everyone wants to hear, but until these issues are addressed, I suspect the end of this hobby is not too far down the road, unfortunately.
Posted by
MasterSgt
on August 27, 2006
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I would but......
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Im pretty shure its a felony in IL and i just dont need that kinda trouble.
Posted by
vanerka
on August 24, 2006
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hots
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i have kept alot of hots over the years,and the state in wich i reside is now looking towards banning my critters.i just cant seem to make my self think about getting rid of my hots.i have been keeping them for almost 20 years with out one escape,only one bite and that at work.just dont know what to do!
Posted by
atherislover
on August 3, 2006
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no, too expensive
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although i would love to, the fines for being caught in florida
are incredibly expensive
Posted by
thenovice
on August 2, 2006
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There are several exotics that I would keep if they were legal.
However, I have no desire to bring the kind of attention to this hobby that it would get if someone in my position was busted breaking the law.
Safety is paramount to all venomous keeping. Next is operating within the existing law systems. If you just can't live within the laws of your area, you should move. If you can't move, then you should obey the laws.
Just my opinion,
Karl H. Betz
Posted by
Buzztail1
on June 26, 2006
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Ed,
You used to be able to have 3 valid permit holders write recommendations verifying that you have the required hours' experience and waiver that requirement.
I am not sure that that particular shortcut is still available.
Good luck as I know that documenting 1,000 hours is a monumental task.
Karl
Posted by
Buzztail1
on June 26, 2006
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hots in Fla.
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I recently moved from W.Virginia where there was no permits required. I have kept hots up there for several years. How do I prove this to the people in Florida. I sold off my collection when I moved so that I would not break any laws. I was a regular at the Hamburg,PA show, and never left with out something new. Getting proof can be a little tough though. Any help would be appreciated.
Posted by
edsreps
on June 22, 2006
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You and Wally both could become involved with what we are doing at NCARK and spread it to your state. I did respond to Wally's follow up to what you proposed... never heard anything more. Join Us & Help Regain Your Rights! We are talking about exposing the AR movement (nationwide) for what they are... EXTREMISTS, and fighting for our rights with logic and science. Help us.
Andrew
Posted by
MoccasinMan
on June 17, 2006
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alabama laws
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im shocked that there hasnt been more people in the states, such as alabama, where the venomous laws have become more strict, that will stand up and try to get together and rally against the anti-snake, anti-hot herps legislation, we all know the law makers and general public are idiots with all their preconcieved misconceptions and belief in wife tales and embelished false hoods of venomous snakes! i created a post in the forum here about people in alabama interested in forming a venomous group a couple weeks ago and there was only one reply to that post, (from wally) with out any more interst than this in fighting for our rights as venomous keepers let alone non-venomous reptiles in general, i feel that our hobby may be doomed, cause people dont seem to want to get off their butts and make a stand!
Posted by
dsschless
on June 17, 2006
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alas... no
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Despite occasional offers for some pretty cool stuff, the legal ramifications outweigh my lust for venomous. I can’t say I’m not tempted though…
I choose instead to keep large constrictors to help satisfy that “Need to have something that can kill me!” craving.
toddg
Posted by
toddg
on June 15, 2006
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Staying Legal is Imperative
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John is right... If we are successful in passing enlightened legislation here in NC and then in SC, the impact accross the SE and the nation will be very positive for our hobby. It will also be a severe blow to the Animal Rights Movement that is at the root of all of this anti legislation accross the country. One of the problems is apathy (which is deadly in more ways than one in this arena). If herpers are not willing to stand up and do what they can to keep what we have legal, then there will be no chance to regain lost ground in states like GA, AL, TN & KY. The states at highest risk right now are LA and WV. The two states that can turn the tide are NC & SC. NC has built an organization dedicated to private ownership of reptiles called the NC Association of Reptile Keepers www.NCARK.org. We have been very successful to date, but we need to recruit more members from all over the country and raise more money to pay for website developement, legal fees, lobbyists...etc (we are still trying to get organized in SC). We will Help Roark Ferguson with a model and funds to get SCARK started. We believe that VA and PA will be targeted soon. We are the the vehicle of positive change. Do your part to help, or we lose it all. "Join Us & Help Protect Your Rights". Logic, Science and Conservation through Captive Breeding supported by money and votes will win the day.
Andrew Wyatt
President
NC Association of Reptile Keepers
www.NCARK.org
252-207-1041
Posted by
MoccasinMan
on June 12, 2006
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Ohio Reptile Laws
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Larry: Go to:
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/wildlife/default.htm
The info is kind of buried on their web site. Or just call the number there and ask then to send you a copy of the regs....
JohnZ
Posted by
Cro
on June 9, 2006
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Where to find state and local laws
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Does anyone know where I can look to find just what my local and state laws are concerning keeping hots, as well as other reptiles? I don't want to break any laws. I'm in Ohio. Thanks in advance, Larry
Posted by
LDMills
on June 9, 2006
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I tried keeping illegally in my state, It got me a big fat fine, and community service.Not to mention the loss of my animals, which were killed. I don't care about the fine, but the killing of the snakes really angered me. Anyway, its just not worth it to keep illegally, if for no other reason than the animals lives.
Posted by
xvenomx
on June 9, 2006
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Illegal Keeping
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Chris is right about the Reptile Laws in Georgia. It is my hope that after North Carolina, (through NCARK), and South Carolina, (through SCARK), pass sensible reptile laws, and since Florida allready has sensible laws, that the herpers here in Georgia can get together and overturn the lousey excuse we have had for Reptile Laws that has been on the books for over 30 years now. We need to form our own ``GAARK`` (sounds like an extinct bird or something, perhaps a better name is needed for GA, LOL !). The laws in Georgia were rammed through mostly due to the work of a three of individuals, one who was an Assistant Curator of Reptiles, one who was a DNR Biologist, and one who was a Federal Fish and Wildlife Biologist. These people made a lot of mistakes in crafting the law. We need to interest the sensible members of the State Legislature, and petition for the Law to be re-written. I just hope the GA herpers are up for the challenge. We can do it, it we organize and use Science and Logic to challenge the resistance we will surly meet. Best Regards JohnZ
Posted by
Cro
on June 8, 2006
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But....
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There are a lot of species that I would like to keep, but it's just not worth the headache living in Georgia. You either pay through the nose, or keep illegally, and I will do neither.
Posted by
Chris_Harper
on June 8, 2006
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