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Most venomous/toxic Naja species in the world? I have read that the Philippine cobra is the most venomous (mice, 0.2 mg/kg SC with the lowest reported value being 0.14 mg/kg SC) (Brown, 1973). I have recently, come across something in the Indian Journal of Experimental Biology (Vol. 30, (issue 12), pages: 1158-1162, 1992) which stated that the LD50 for Naja oxiana was the most toxic/venomous (mice, 0.18 mg/kg SC and lowest reported value was 0.10 mg/kg). Along with that, the mortality rate for untreated Naja oxiana bites are the highest among all Naja species (70-80%). N.oxiana also produced the lowest known lethal dose (LCLo) of 0.005 mg/kg, the lowest among all cobra species ever recorded, derived from an individual case of poisoning by intracerebroventricular injection.
Following N. oxiana and N. philippinensis are N. melanoleuca at 0.225 mg/kg SC and then N. samarensis at 0.23 mg/kg. The water cobras (N. annulata and N. christyi also have very toxic venoms, but no SC values are listed. Only intraperitoneal (IP) values of 0.143 mg/kg for N. annulata and 0.12 mg/kg for N. christyi. IP values tend to be generally lower (more toxic than subcutaneous values, so it would be unfair to compare their IP results to the subcutaneous (SC) results of other Naja species. Then I have heard that (without solid evidence) that Naja nivea is the most venomous, although their murine SC LD50 range anywhere from 0.4 mg/kg (Toxicon, Vol. 5, issue 1, page 47, 1967) to 0.72 mg/kg (Australian venoms and toxins Databse).
So which is the most venomous? To me it seems obvious that it is the Caspian or Oxus cobra (Naja oxiana), followed by the Philippine cobra (Naja philippinensis). What do you think or know?
I've noticed that the Australian venom and toxin Database seems to have higher LD50 values for all snakes across the board. For example, for the black mamba IP value of 0.01 mg/kg is listed (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/004101018890219X) and Ernst and Zug et al 1996, list a SC value of 0.05 mg/kg for the black mamba. While the Australian venom and toxin Database listed much less toxic LD50's. So there seems to be a lot of variation.
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In 10 years from now, what do you predict will be the legislative status of keeping venomous reptiles in your area?
  Posted: Dec 29, 2007
  (114 votes, 9 comments)
by Nightflight99
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Survey Results
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The same as it is now - legal without permit
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17% (19)
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The same as it is now - legal with permit only
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25% (29)
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The same as it is now - illegal
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18% (20)
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Illegal, even though it is currently legal
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39% (44)
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Legal, even though it is currently illegal
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2% (2)
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keeping venomous
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best thing i can tell you herpers reading this is move to south carolina were we have the best or should i say most relaxed laws in the country on hot animals thanks largly in part to my friend and mentor Roark Ferguson.
Posted by
varivenom
on January 26, 2008
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Hi!
It wont't be legal. The politicians said when they made the law they won't modulate this. In my area very difficult to have allowence.
Posted by
Tuotatis
on January 20, 2008
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keeping venomous
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This is a practice. a practice in patience and know how, you have to know your animals know what they react to and how they react. i think in my opinion those who respect them should keep them and those who just wanna impress someone for any reason should not keep them for there safety others safety and our right to keep, research, and preserve these small but significant creatures.
Posted by
varivenom
on January 17, 2008
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Status Quo
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I think in the U.S. most states have a position on the matter. I don't see a sweeping change happening over the next 10 years (maybe a state here and there) but nothing across the entire country. 10 years doesn't seem like a lot of time for say a federal ban.
As with any government over time there are always more laws never less.
Posted by
Ptk
on January 16, 2008
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Illegal, even though it is currently legal
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More and More anti-freedom laws. That is how I see this country ending up. It makes me sick!
Posted by
live4hots
on January 13, 2008
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ten*
Posted by
vanerka
on January 12, 2008
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I wish I knew anything about whats going on then years from now much less a week.... LOL
Posted by
vanerka
on January 12, 2008
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ven reptile law
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The biggest issue here in hickville is pit bulls, they are so feared by the police, they are shot if not restrained
Posted by
buzzard
on January 10, 2008
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I don't know about other states in the union, but the one I live isn't changing any time soon.
Posted by
xvenomx
on January 3, 2008
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