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Are you Serious?
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They're probably just as safe as you are.
Posted by
walkmaster
on September 21, 2001
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AQUARIUMS
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I HAVE SEVERAL SPECIES OF VENOMOUS SNAKES AND ALL ARE IN FULL GLASS TERRARIA. I AGREE THAT THERE ARE INDEED BETTER CHOICES TO HOUSE HOTS IN, BUT IT ALSO DEPENDS A BIT ON THE RELATIVE RESPONSIBILITY LEVEL OF THE OWNER. I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ESCAPE (BY A HOT) FROM ANY GLASS TANK---I USE THE METAL TOP CLIPS---LOTS OF THEM! NOT TO MENTION--MY HERP ROOM HAS MORE SECURITY THAN FORT KNOX!OF COURSE, AS STATED PRIOR--YA GOTTA WATCH THAT WHOLE HAND-PLACEMENT FACTOR-LOL. ALSO---IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE TANK--I HAVE 2 C.ATROX IN A 75 GALLON TERRARIUM---NICE VIEW TO NICE SNAKES AND I FIND THEM ACTUALLY RELATIVELY EASY TO CLEAN. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE VIEWS OR SUGGESTIONS FOR BETTER CAGING (I'M ALWAYS UP FOR IDEAS) OR WOULD JUST LIKE TO TALK HOTS PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT SNAKOFILE@AOL.COM
Posted by
CASCABELLADONNA
on January 25, 2001
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glass aquariums
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as a member of the society i will leave this one to you to decide. i had a large (6ft) cobra in a 3 foot neodesha for over a year. it had worked fine, one day i come home after hanging out at the bar (yeah of all the #@% damn times) to a hysterical girlfriend. the first words my intoxicated ears hear is, OH GOD QUICK, GO TO THE LAB, the cobras out!!. sure as hell, i enter the lab to find that after over a year, the glass must have finally had enough and ( i assume from the heat of the light, though it had been in there for some time) and shattered. i was forced (no hooks present) to tail a 6 ft egypt into a 5 gal bucket after draging it out from under a counter by its tail. fortunately it was rather cold that day and the metabolic rate of the snake had slowed significantly ( like i wasnt slow either) enough to where she didnt put up a fight. this is my ONLY incident with a hot, and i plan on making it my last. by the way guys, nice to see ya again,
jared w
*why did you think i havent been showing my face after that.
Posted by
Anonymous
on December 3, 2000
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Dont's and Do's
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Don't: go out and try and catch a venoumus snake unless ur very well trained or with someone who is.
Do:If you want a venoumus snake go buy one if you can.
Don't:take off the lid and then leave the room. Especailly when they're hungry, you have pets, and god forbid, all of the above.
Do:Buy a well built cage for ur snake.
Don't: let ur snake slither freely around in ur house.
Do:Buy mice from pet stores for there food.
Don't: go without feeding them for over a month. u risk being bitten if you do.
Posted by
Anonymous
on December 2, 2000
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Glass and common sense...
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I think glass tanks are a real pain. Hard to clean, and they don't stack. BUT they look great and allow good viewing as display enclosures-- and they're relatively inexpensive and readily available. Add a good-quality and though-out top of some kind and you may have a winner. Then add common sense (don't put your hand on top), and lock the door to the herp room. Glass tanks aren't the best-- aren't even "good". But they can be fine.
I also don't like the idea of fishing a big EDB out of a big glass tank, but my gabbies were fine.
Jaf
Posted by
Anonymous
on December 1, 2000
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Glass Aquariums
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Thomas, you make a great point. For small venomous like Pigmy Rattlers, Copperheads, Aspidelaps, and perhaps some arboreals, aquariums can be safely adapted for use. Even I wouldn't think of keeping the larger, hard-hitting Bitis or even a large C. adamanteus in an aquarium (although I used to which led to my developing wooden cages with plexiglass fronts before the herp trade filled the gap). Karl
Posted by
Buzztail1
on November 27, 2000
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Glass-aquarium survey
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Chris, since the results of this survey are turning out to be pretty close, I suggest you arrange a manual hand-recount...(-:
Posted by
Nightflight99
on November 24, 2000
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All-glass aquariums
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I think that some smaller species can be be housed in all-glass aquariums, provided, as Buzztail1 said, that the lid-lock system is perfect. I personally wouldn't keep any heavy-bodied Bitis or such in them though.
I also see no particular reason to choose all-glass aquariums over Neodesha or Vision enclosures, as the ladder are generally much more suitable and secure for venomous snakes.
Posted by
Nightflight99
on November 16, 2000
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All-glass aquariums...
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Chris, this time I disagree. I have kept everything on the east coast up to a 5' Eastern Diamondback in some incarnation of a "fish tank." I have worked very hard to come up with workable, padlocking lids that are custom-fit to each tank. They are easy to make rack-systems for and the glass gives a good all-around view. If you follow all the other 101 rules about keeping your "hot" room locked and safe from visitors, all-glass tanks should be perfectly safe (provided your lid system is perfected). I will post my lid system once I get the photos scanned. Padlocks and double screening are a must. Karl
Posted by
Buzztail1
on November 14, 2000
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Glass Aquariums ???
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I wouldn't even think of keeping venomous snakes in "all glass" aquariums. They are made for fish! I have seen some custom made tops for them that are okay, but there just isn't enough security with them. All of my cages are made from 3/4" plywood, with 1/4" tempered glass fronts. The tops all have a double layer of hardware cloth seperated by 1.75 inches. No snake I keep has fangs that long. They also have double brass hinges and double padlocks. There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to caging venomous snakes.
Posted by
Charper
on November 14, 2000
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