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by ssssnakeman on November 21, 2006
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im after a care sheet for acanthophis.information such as uv lighting and enclosure heating for adders would be great.
thanks
baz
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by plainblain on November 22, 2006
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Mike, I am glad you posted on this forum again. Even if you are still pissed off at people here, I am glad you are still part of this forum.
I'm not trying to get into physcotherapy weird stuff too much, but I'll be totally honest...in you, I can see a little bit of me. Some how I can identify with you. I don't like it, but I can.
So...now you have had experiences none of us have had. You got tagged by a mamba, made national news and created a furor on every snake forum in the country.
Would you consider sharing with us your experience, first hand? About how the media probably lied about your snakes. What you experienced after the bite and your trip to the ER. About recovery. What Crofab felt like.
We would like to hear your story. Sincerely.
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by FLherp on November 22, 2006
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South African Polyvalent is the appropriate AV. Although CroFab has been used for some exotic bites in the US, it is indicated for North American Crotalus, Sistrusrus and Agkistrodon... Not Dendroaspis.
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by BobH on November 22, 2006
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These are great snakes and should probably be on the list of first elaphids. Mine like to burrow a bit in aspen substrate and I give them bark hiding boxes. They do not need uv lighting and can be kept at normal colubrid temps (my room go from 60-83F. I had some recent babies at the Columbia show and I was really suprized they were not sucked up. They sometimes are not the best hookers and this can be fixed by using two hooks. They are also deceptively calm but Remember THEY CAN STAND ON THE END of the tail during a strike (ie, probably one of only a few snakes that can strike its entire body length). They have very toxic venom, so remember to keep you hands far way and the compression bandages close!
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by Atrox788 on November 22, 2006
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Um, Death adders are horrible begineer elapids >< Why? Minus their horrendus venom toxcicity its the fact that they dont act like elapids. They act like vipers in almost everyway.
Recomending one of the top 15 most venomous snakes, top 3 fastest striking snakes and top 3 most expensive AV for a snake is a poor judgement call in my mind >.>
As for Mike, shouldnt you be focusing on recovering instead of coming here bad mouthing people?
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by thedude on November 22, 2006
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Plainbain,
CroFab does not feel like anything. If it is a serious bite you are likely to be doped up out of your mind anyway.
A question to the snakebite specialists here:
When should treatment for pain start in the case of a crotalid bite? Is there any reason not to start upon admission or beginning of pain?
Thanks,
The Dude
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by Buzztail1 on November 22, 2006
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Gentlemen,
If you want to start a thread on snakebite treatment, you should go ahead and start one. This thread was started to find care information for Death adders and you are highjacking it ;-)
I have found a couple of webpages that indicate that UV lighting is not necessary for Death Adders. Although I cannot vouch for the authors of these websites, there is a lot of information on keeping Death Adders at both of them. They are:
http://www.blognow.com.au/reptiletrader/36809/Care_Sheet_-_Venomous_Snakes.html
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http://www.smuggled.com/addcag1.htm
I have had my disagreements with Mr. Hoser in the past over various issues. That doesn't mean that his husbandry is bad.
Good luck in your search.
Karl H. Betz
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by thedude on November 22, 2006
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You are right Carl! Sorry about that! Hijacking threads seems to be all the rage on this site lately.
Here is my apology:
http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/plants_animals/reptiles/advice/venomous_snakes.html
Fairly decent with basic info.
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by ALA_snake33 on November 22, 2006
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Atrox788: You should read the Profile of the Man who started this thread, he dose not seem to be a beginner to me.
As for care with Death Adders, I agree with Karl. This Species does not seem to need any Artificial UV Lighting to keep it healthy but, I will give you one warning. I don’t mean to sound like I am telling you your business but, these little Twisters can be very fast and agile for their body size. They seem to have the ability to turn and get you before you can even move. We kept 2 of these Beautiful Snakes at the Zoo and both taught me that even if a Snake is laying stretched out, with its head facing away from you, it can still turn up over its own body and hit you before you can move. To be such a stocky little Snake, they can move fast.
Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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