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by EdVA on April 22, 2007
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Can anyone ID this snake ? It was 30 to 40 feet up a utility pole when it shorted the transformer out and was blown about 40 feet from the pole into one of my trees. Pix will be in the Photo Album under Ed VA. Thanks !
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by Chris_Harper on April 22, 2007
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Ed,
Okay, let's play "ID that Snake"!
You didn't say WHERE your snake was? How about a country, state and city?
Ed's snake photos are at this URL:
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libraries/Snakes%20for%20Identification/5
Any guesses? :-)
webmaster
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by ALA_snake33 on April 22, 2007
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Elaphe obsoleta linheimeri (Texas Rat Snake) has to be this Species, for sure.
Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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by GREGLONGHURST on April 23, 2007
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That is absolutely Pantherophis (Elaphe) obsoleta lindheimeri, the Texas ratsnake. Your previous snake, the one without the head, is a little more difficult, but I'll say it is most likely a ground snake, Sonora episcopa ssp. That is judging on size, shape, & color. I hope you understand that head shape & markings make identification a lot easier. Also, when photographing a dead snake for i.d., it might help to photograph the ventral side as well.
~~Greg~~
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by EdVA on April 23, 2007
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Hi...
I sincerely appreciate everyone's input. By the way, for CH, I live in Seguin, Texas. About midway between San Antonio & Austin TEXAS, USA.
Can any of you experts give me the details on HOW you can tell what kind of snake this was ???
I've been catching snakes these past few years, and know that Rattlers, Corals, Copperheads, and Moccasins are SUPPOSED to be the only venomous snakes in the US; but as in the case of the "Electric Snake" in the photo, some of them are pretty mean looking and Aggressive.
Once again, Thanks to ALL !
P.S.
I've already caught a 6 foot Rattler, 1 Coral Snake, 1 Green Tree Snake, and BUNCHES of what everyone is calling "Ground, or Earth Snakes".
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by EdVA on April 23, 2007
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Hi Again...
I forgot to ask if anyone can tell me how far these Rat Snakes RANGE in their hunting. Any ideas on how far their nest might be from where he was when he died ?
Are these Rat Snakes always Aggressive ? One struck at a dagger I held in front of him, and he split his head on it. Can they be caught barehanded; and if so, what kind of treatment will their bite require ?
Sorry for all the questions; but you folks seem so knowledgeable on these subjects that I've got to learn all I can now that I've found you. Thanks !
I've also been trying to find out how far Coral Snakes RANGE in their hunting. Since I caught that one Coral Snake this past summer, I've been worrying about how far their nest might be for fear of the grandkids running across them.
Any ideas on why I've been finding so many (>20) Ground, or Earth Snakes this past month ? In the past 30 years of living here, I've never seen ANY of them until now.
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by Chris_Harper on April 23, 2007
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This works a lot better when it's a group effort. :-)
How about this one?
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libraries/showfilepage/4299?offset=11
I've seen something quite similar while travelling out of the country, but we have no locality data to go with this photo.
CH
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by Cro on April 23, 2007
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Chris, that photo is of a European legless lizard known as the Slow Worm.
The Scientific Name is (Anguis fragilis).
We actually discussed that photo in the Experts Section long ago, but no one went back and updated the photo.
Best Regards JohnZ
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