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by tigers9 on March 29, 2008
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Does anybody have a picture(s) of a proper way to handle venomous snake with tongs? Longer tongs are better for my project, I need it for another YouTube Rexano's ReptileHahaven Channel video.
If you do send it to me please to rexano1@yahoo.com
and tell me if u want to be anonymous, if not, tell me what name to use in credits at the end,
Thanks
Zuzana
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by FSB on March 29, 2008
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Dear Rexano -
The proper way to use tongs or a hook or anything else to handle venomous snakes is to have someone who is absolutely experienced and knowledgeable using them! In other words, it isn't the tool that matters, it's who's using it, and tongs aren't always the most appropriate tool for a given situation anyway (in fact, I use a hook far more often than tongs). You don't want to be like the guy who wanted to learn to play the violin, so he went to a concert in order to "see how it's done." When his friend asked later if he had had any success in learning how to play, the man replied: "Next time I plan to sit a little closer." You really can't learn to handle venomous snakes (or play the violin) simply by seeing someone else do it.
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RE: Pics of tong/snake hadling needed
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by tigers9 on March 29, 2008
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Well, I disagree that tool doesn’t matter, but that is a different topic.
Anyway.
This is what I am doing, very short instructional video for YouTube about/for folks like me who live with wild rattlers and why sometimes we shouldn’t kill them but try to relocate them instead with tongs.
So I want the ABCs for idiots like me, how to get the snake and move it away from your house , safely, instead of killing it. I have 2 tong pics so far, would be nice to have more, kind of showing NON expert home owners living in AZ or NV how to properly catch the snake and move it instead of waiting 3 hours for animal control to show up since we live far away and often there is no time to wait.
Some of you might hate me on this forum, but over the years I had close calls with wild rattlers being in strike position 2 feet from my exotic pets and I had to kill them to save my stupid pets who would have gotten bitten teasing the poor snake, in these instances I had to kill the snake because I had no tong or ways to move it away and it was matter of seconds I had to act.
Since then I bought long tong.
I did few second of footage here in NV few days ago, Monday after Easter, with wild panamint that startled me when I was cleaning cages as I didn’t realize they were our of hibernation already,so I run in the house as snake was not threatening my pets,so I had time, so I have my own wild footage video I took and pic of this snake in tong, we relocated it,I just want more pics of the proper tong use, that is all, I am not asking for pics because I want to teach idiots how to play with snakes, I want it to save few wild snakes and pets lives and my own too.
The video will get done, I just wanted input/help from here, that is all.
Fact is I live with Mohave and panamint rattlers and there are others like me, since I am not moving from NV, I have to learn to deal with it.
Think of my situation as doing CPR or closing/squeezing the ripped vein until paramedics arrive, move the snake away from my pets with tongs, as i am NOT using my bare hands.
Z
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by tigers9 on March 29, 2008
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FSB, just read your profile, you do snake removal, OK, imagine situation you live here and I call you to remove Mohave green from my lion’s cage, would you go in and do it or would you prefer I do it?;-)
Z
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by soberwolf on March 29, 2008
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Tigress I dont use a tong. But from what I have abserved using a grip just firm enough to not let the animal slide through at about a third of its lenght down from the head. Be careful because improper use can damage the snake. I use a hook and I cut the bottom of a 5 gal bucket and fused it together with another bucket (liquid nails)with a lid. I do not use breater holes because I dont want the snake to get caught up on them and because they usually dont spend more that about 5-10 minutes in a bucket.. Shelby
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by stopgetinpopped on March 29, 2008
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Just leave it be...I'm sure it's not going to 'attack' you or your exotics. It may defend itself...rightfully so. I would spend time snake proofing your exotic enclosures and leave the snakes to their own devices and lives. This is part of responsible ownership of all pets. Either teach your animals to leave the snakes alone..which is easily done. Or design enclosures that protect your pets from the native environment. I'm sure they have sunshades to protect them from the sun, protecting them from the native wildlife falls under the same responsible ownership tag.
Some things don't need to be taught on YouTube. This is one of them.
If you really need to protect you or your pets from the monstrous Mojave or Speckled...Use a large push broom and sweep it 2 feet so you have more than the dramatically stated 'seconds to act' time frame...or just leave it alone...that would be nice.
Terry
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by Buzztail1 on March 29, 2008
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Instead of reinventing the wheel . . .
Why not just post a link to the snakegetters tutorial page?
Here is a link to the page:
http://www.snakegetters.com/demo/
R/
Karl
PS I wouldn't use any of the pictures from that site without getting express permission. KHB
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by tigers9 on March 29, 2008
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To Stopgettingpopped:
I am all ears how to snake proof my outdoor cat cages when I live in the middle of the NV desert 1 hour east of Death Valley. My 10 acres has hot wire at the bottom, but snakes can get under. And most of what is behind my fence is BLM land with rocky mountainous/canyon terrain and channels from flash floods many years ago.
I am also all ears how to teach a big (or any ) cat not to play with moving objects.
And yes, there were quite a few instances with my smaller cats where I found lower half of dry rattlesnake in the cage, I can only guess what happened with the rest of the snake’s body, so far cats are winning, but I don’t want to take any chances.
To: Soberwolf, thanks for good advice, I appreciate that.
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by Cro on March 29, 2008
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Z, I am a bit concerned that you want to show folks how to use tongs to move nusiance rattlesnakes, and that most folks do not own tongs.
Why not make a video of how easy it is to turn a plastic or metal garbidge can on its side, then use a broomb to push, coax the snake into the garbidge can, then to tilt the can back upright, then put the lid on it, and duct tape it shut. Then drag it into the shade, and call someone who will re-locate the snake from your property. Almost anyone can accomplish that. And it does not require the purchase of a $60.00 pair of tongs, that many folks will not be willing to do ????
Best Regards JohnZ
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by Rob_Carmichael on March 29, 2008
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A broom and garbage can works great but its also nice to show people how to properly use tongs (and the right kinds of tongs). Some here mention they never use tongs - I can't imagine anyone doing rattlesnake removal w/out them - there are times when they are necessary. I think Z's idea is just a way to help those who live in areas where they can come across rattlesnakes. Knowledge is power.
Rob
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