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RE: Pics of tong/snake hadling needed
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by tigers9 on March 31, 2008
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Hey Cro,
if you really want to have fun with Art Bell type attitude, check out this Area 51 forum discussion regarding supposed weird exotic animal behaviour being affected by Area 51, including the fake tiger at large.
The wolf hybrid kill mentioned was just a husky mix, and cougar was a scratch to caretaker.
Anyway, Area 51 is blamed for for everything here, more communities need their own Area 51 like we have in Pahrump, so any fake WalMart venomous snake at large can be blamed on it;-)
Z (never bored in Pahrump)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread308348/pg1
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RE: Pics of tong/snake hadling needed
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by FSB on April 3, 2008
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Hey Z-
Sure thing, just tell me where you are and I'll be right over... one thing, I DO get to keep the snake, right? I mean, if it's in your lion's cage, then you obviously need to secure your snakes better, unless you live in Mojave country and it's a wild one :) (is that right? I'm a luddite when it comes to these little online symbols...)
Anyway, I'd sure hate to be the vet who gets called to treat a snake-bitten lion!
Kidding aside, I only wish I would get a call half that interesting. The high point of the snake removal season for me around these parts (southern Virginia) is one or maybe two calls involving C. horridus, several copperheads, and the occasional king or eastern milk, but about 90% of my calls involve an 8-14" black rat snake in someone's house. And while that may seem a little monotonous, if not bothersome, to those of an elevated herpetological world-view, I tell you those terrified-of-snakes people are just as grateful as if I had rushed into their burning home to retrieve their dog. Plus, after everything calms down, I'm often able to give them a proper introduction to the little object of their terror, who is no doubt much more terrorized than anyone else, and I often leave them at least trying to say something nice about snakes (such as, "Well, I don't mind 'em as much.... out in the yard!"). Most folks' problems with snakes (as with other people) comes from the fact that they have just never been properly introduced.
I wonder if it would be practical to have a listing on the site of people who do regional emergency snake removal, which is a far better option for the uninitiated than trying to do it themselves (though I do greatly appreciate anyone's willingness to take a course other than killing the snake). So far, I still do this free of charge in my own county, and only add a charge to cover mileage and expenses farthe away.
And, hey Z, I'm a cat person too, but I'd ditch the lion if I were you... don't you realize what a big pain-in-the butt they are? Huge appetites, fleas and even larger vet bills. Plus, they snore like crazy. Give me a snake anyday!
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RE: Pics of tong/snake hadling needed
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by tigers9 on April 3, 2008
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Hey FSB, yes, I am in Mohave desert in Pahrump area in southern Nevada.
I actually finished tong video draft last night, but final version will be delayed.
As fate would have it, one of my wolf dogs got bitten by rattler this morning, I found bleeding fang wound on her swollen lip/face and bloody paws.
I am just back from veterinarian, wolf dog is on Benadryl, pain killers and antibiotics as these wound often get infected.
Considering dog had bloody front and back paws and fang wound was on her lip, I better go and look for possibly injured not in a good mood rattler on the property now and finish video later.
She is trouble maker, stray wolf dog from local shelter, they called me last fall to take her or she would be euthanized, so I said yes,so we now have 12 canines, 8 of them wolf dogs, so I need to learn to say NO to more that need home, the inn is full.
She damages everything, water hoses and timers, kills /eats wild jackrabbits, etc…most destructive/playful animal I ever had, but lots of personality, here is her picture
http://www.rexano.org//non_profit_charity_Frame.htm
This one might not learn her lesson to stay away from snakes even after this painful bite episode, she is so hard headed when it comes to playing with and destroying stuff.
This year might be one of these years in Mohave where we will see wild rattlesnakes everywhere all the time, usually it is not this busy with rattlers.
Our animal control is understaffed as it is, is there anybody local in Pahrump who can teach me better who to catch snakes?
Having listing of US snake removal people on this site might be a good idea though.
But as I said, I am in remote location, but the time snake removal service arrives, snake might be long gone.
Anyway, I better check how wolfie Shady is doing.
Z
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RE: Pics of tong/snake hadling needed
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by hapkidocrochunter on April 7, 2008
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the bikini video got my attention, and the "overflowing" seemed to catch the cats attention too. I'm interested in seeing the bikini snake video next lol.
Good work with all your cat projects though, its good to see people caring for wildlife.
matt
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RE: Pics of tong/snake hadling needed
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by Cro on April 7, 2008
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Z, as far as keeping the snakes off of the property, and away from the lion cages, have you ever considered building an adobe wall ? The material is as cheap as dirt, and there must be folks in Nevada who know how to make adobe bricks and who could stucco a smooth surface on a wall.
Also, those black fabric erosion control fenses that they sell at building supply stores have been used with some success in keeping snakes away from areas. Even though they are only 18 to 24 inches high, many snakes will just turn when they hit these fenses, and crawl around them, instead of trying to go over them.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by tigers9 on April 7, 2008
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The landscaping cloth seems to be the best idea so far, any solid wall would turn this property into a pool during rains, it would need many drains, which would allow snakes to get it. .
Anyway, here is the YT video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quTtNl-ljec
Bikinis were there in spirit, I was wearing them when filming the wild rattlesnake.
Z
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by Cro on April 7, 2008
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Z, I like the video. The main thing I would change would be to use a much taller garbidge can to chase the snake into.
Many snakes will just shoot back out of a short trash can like that one in the photo.
One of those 3 or 4 foot tall ones used for street pickup would be much safer.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by tigers9 on April 7, 2008
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Thanks, we would have used more pics but this is all we had available.
It is now being uploaded to REXANO ReptileHaven Channel as well
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=reptileHaven
In addition to animals, animal photography is my passion as well, so I will be ready all summer to take more rattlesnake pics and videos, and be in some of them...;-)
Z
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