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by Rugha on October 17, 2003
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How long would it take the most venomous snake in the world to kill the average size man with an average bite?
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by Chris_Harper on October 17, 2003
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Gosh, tough question, since no one has ever died from the bite of the Inland Taipan - that I know of. In general terms, let's just put it this way - take the top 5 most venomous snakes injecting a moderate amount of venom into an average man, don't seek or apply any treatment whatsoever, and you've got yourself a dead man in 1 to 6 hours.
That's the best general estimate I can come up with.
~CH
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by Deuce on October 17, 2003
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Let's use mambas for example, b/c this is what I milk the most. I have no Aussie experience. The venom is light, and has some major neuro's(all 3)It's like water in a way, unlike cobras which are very thick, and weigh about twice as much. Mambas are about 2 plus migs a unit, and the cobras are about 4 plus. A unit is that small line on a cc needle(100 lines in a 1 cc needle). I think the Aussie stuff is about 1.5(that's just my memory though, per BGF). Okay, now that's out of the way, I think about 10 migs is a good guess for a HLD for a average person for the "hot" stuff. That would be about 3-7 units on the cc needle. My greens(viridis,ang., james) put out between 5-20 plus units, and my black can crack an easy 20 plus. Within 15 mins the black can start to take affect, and within 1 hour you can be in real trouble. I have a case history where my buddy started to drop in about 20 mins from a black, and was down in about an hour. A N. haje dropped me in about 40 minutes, and I milked him for for years with a 10 mig average. There's many factors involved, and this is just my best guess w/ my experiments, and research from case histories. One more note, my mambas have the fastest kill times w/ rats at about 1-4 seconds. Just a personel note. I hope I answered your q, that's as close as I can come. TF
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Bear in mind...
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by Buzztail1 on October 17, 2003
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There is nothing average about a venomous snakebite.
Two years ago there were two highly published bites in Georgia (certainly NOT the home of the deadliest snakes in the world).
In the first incident, a young lady was bitten by an unknown snake. She had no phone in her home and ran a half a mile to a neighbor's house to call 911. She collapsed into a coma and died 3 or 4 days later. The snake was never identified.
In the second incident, another young lady picked up a "Canebrake" Rattlesnake which her boyfriend had run over and threw it into the bed of their pickup truck planning to skin it later. An argument ensued, and she reached in to throw it back onto the road. The "dead" snake bit her twice before she could let go. It hit a vein/artery and she was pronounced dead at the local hospital A HALF HOUR AFTER THE BITE!
Just two examples of the possible fatal outcomes of snakebites.
Karl H. Betz
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by Deuce on October 18, 2003
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To be honest, nothing scares me more then rattlers, they are really in there own class w/ regards to speed and attitude.
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by Snakeman1982 on October 19, 2003
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Gosh, I guess everyone has their own idea of what scares them. I think I would be much more worried about mambas than rattlesnakes but I wouldn't know since I haven't been to Africa to catch any mambas yet. I really haven't had a lot of problems with rattlesnakes myself other than occasional strikes and quick rushes at my feet while wearing sandals in the field, haha. I find them pretty easy going and non-aggressive but then again I almost exclusively deal with wild animals and not captives. They are defensive which makes them very predictable in comparison to other snakes. In the Everglades we had one 4 and a half foot eastern diamondback in captivity that was a little "strike happy" but nothing too worrysome. My buddy almost got bit in the stomach while removing it one day but other than that I really haven't had any worries by rattlesnakes.
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by Deuce on October 19, 2003
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I had a atrox go right through my MW glove, w/ a solid 1 fang penetration, so that changed my mind. I'm immune to the mambas, so I look at those snakes a little different. I do have a big 10 foot poly that is a handful to milk, but to me it's just a gartersnake. It all depends on the individual animal, and the given day. Be safe.Tf
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by IanG on October 20, 2003
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I am no expert just a very interested non keeper, but i have been lucky enough to have been to Zimbabwe where i visited a snake rescure cntr at Victoria Falls, there a guy told me he knew of a woman who was tagged (by one fang only) by a Black Mamaba while she was doing a demo in a Joburg zoo, she seemingly died within the hour, now my question is could this be due to the fact that the woman knew the reputation of the snake and the sheer terror and shock of being bitten by such a renowned snake sped up the time it took her to pass away??..
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